Men’s Rights Movement vs Feminism – Which one is Toxic?

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I’m going to start out by saying up until recently I knew very little about feminists and their movement.  I was always taught that it was about equal rights for both women and men and so when I saw men who identified themselves, as feminists, I really didn’t notice any problem.     That being said, I’ve been finding myself lately watching videos on you tube, that started innocently enough, but delved deeper into feminism and I began to notice a pattern with both the Men’s Rights Activists and the Feminists.   So I decided to educate myself on both sides to find out what was happening.   What I found out shocked me and helped me realize I wasn’t alone.

I will start out with the Men’s Right’s Movement.    These are people who are trying to form associations and groups to bring attention to men’s issues,  just as feminism did for women back in the 1970s.   Some of the issues I can identify with, as I have experienced them before and some I had no clue as I never really considered or thought about to closely.   One of the ones that stuck out for me was the genital mutilation.  I myself I fully admit,  still have my foreskin.   However, being a gay man and before meeting my husband I have slept with other men who weren’t.  They all said the same thing when we discussed uncut vs cut.   They all wished they had their foreskin.   Even my husband says it to me at times and even contemplates getting surgery to get it back.     Not having our foreskin is  a big issue because it leaves scars and even insecurities for men all through their lives, and at the very least leaves them with this sense of regret and longing.

Some other issues that I had a vague idea about but didn’t give much thought was the statistics on the damage done to men by society.
90% of the homeless are men, and almost 100% have some mental disability that doesn’t allow them to be able to function or hold down jobs, and because there are almost zero support systems in place, (because men are supposed to buck up and be men) they end up on the street, sleeping on cardboard on open grates.
The rates of suicide with men are alarming as well.  There is a One in Six chance that a man will kill himself by the time he is Thirty years old.
Then the issue of the court system favoring women over men and men being forced to pay huge sums of money that drive men to suicide or leave the country or even being jailed.
Or the right to choose parenthood.  Men don’t have that choice.

Domestic violence.  Half of all domestic violence against men is done by their wives and spouses.  (This is one feminists disagree with or completely ignore making excuses for the women).    The reason this should be a concern is men are automatically assumed to be the assaulter when the police show and will be charged if it perceived the women is in distress example being crying when the police show.   Even if the guy has been stabbed (there are videos on youtube by guys who got stabbed or worse), by the spouse, the man is still considered the one at fault and in many cases are jailed but are later released or not.

The list goes on and on.   I talked to my husband about these issues and he didn’t know either and was silent listening to me.  I still don’t know what was on his mind as he became really silent and then changed the subject.   The Men’s right movement is seeking to change this and fix the problems that have been overlooked for so long, and this stems from another movement that focused on women’s rights while claiming to be for equality.

That is the Feminist Movement.   Now, like I said I am for equality. I believe everyone should be treated equal and that is what I thought feminists were about.  Until I watched and listened to their theories and curriculum that is taught in college or university.   This movement has started so long ago that there are calling the current crop of college students who identify with this group as “Third Wave” feminists.

What really made me shake my head in complete and utter disgust was the blind stupidity with the majority as a whole.   While individually, many seem reasonable, as a group, they really make you wish their parents had used birth control or their mothers had aborted in the first trimester.  (YES I WENT THERE).

These women are definitely not for equality.  They believe the men (Patriarchy) is the reason why they have always suffered oppression.    Even today in 2015, they are still the victims of oppression and will spew this ideological puke, that sounds so convoluted, you need a flow chart to understand what they are talking about.

Let me explain.

Logically thinking people will think like this;   A to B to C to D = E.      Normal people think in a logical sequence that helps you take proper steps A to achieve E.    This is how, normal sane brain function and critical thinking works.

What you get with feminists is :  A to D to L to N to B to F to 12 to ZZ to Xy = B but really means E.

Makes no sense and you need a flow chart.

The pattern I did notice was that every single idea of theirs left them with zero responsibility for their own actions.   Pretty much every idea had the blame placed solely on the shoulders of men.

Let’s take the rape theories.

1.  If a man and a woman meet in a bar, get drunk and go have sex, then the woman has been raped.   Yup that’s right.  She has been raped.  Why?  Because she was incapable to give consent because, she was drunk.

The reason that idea is absolutely garbage and should be rejected is because the drunk defense is not a defense.  If you get into a car drunk and hit someone, you can’t say “I’m not responsible because I was drunk”.  That defense hasn’t been accepted by courts for decades.   Yet if a woman is drunk she is not responsible and therefore has been raped?  Yet that guy she slept with who was equally drunk is responsible for rape?   This insane notion is harmful because it removes all responsibility of actions from the women and places it on the man.   Not only that but this idea is taken seriously by police and many men, end up in jail for rape, especially if they get a feminist judge.

2.  If a woman doesn’t verbally give consent but ever so slightly pulls away and the man continues and they have sex, then he just committed rape.   This will also land him in jail.    This one also removes all liability from a woman to actually verbally say NO.    The act of saying no was the ever so slight pulling away that you as a man are to magically pick up on.

3.  This one is my favorite as it shows even more how insane this movement is.   If a woman has consensual sex with you, and the next day or a few days later regrets it, that can be considered rape.  However, this one is manipulated.  If your a sane woman reading this and have gone through this scenario and recognize that yes sometimes you can regret this but it isn’t rape, think back to when you did this and talked to friends.   This one is common because feminists will convince you that you have been raped.   Even though you never considered that to begin with.  A women with strong belief system in place will see this and laugh and move on.   Some women will allow their friends to convince them and then off goes the man to jail.

As well we are expected 100% to believe the word of the woman when she claims rape.  She shouldn’t be expected to provide any evidence, and doesn’t need a rape kit done.    Instead her word  should be assumed as gospel, because after all, there is no women on the planet who has never lied or lied to police to get vengeance on a perceived wrong.  All women are again victims and men are scum.   They will even protest on masse at police departments or court houses when they perceive a woman who has claimed rape was found to have no evidence and the case was dropped.  Or found that they fabricated the story.  To feminists, that doesn’t matter and the woman should be believed and the man or men should have their lives ruined, because after all the woman imagined the man doing it so therefor it happened.

Those are just a few of their so called rape scenarios that they really do believe.   One video I watched , the feminists in the audience had question number 1 thrown at them and they unanimously agreed that it was rape.  The speaker, asked them on what earth is that rape when they both consent?   And when a student in the audience along with his “Women’s Studies” professor demanded to see proof that it wasn’t.  She easily responded back with ” It’s logic”.   The one male student the camera focused on looked like he was hit in the head with a bat, as I don’t believe he ever really thought about it but just repeated the same mantras.

Another theory they have is the wage gap.  I couldn’t tell you how wrong that theory and anyone with half a brain and google can find out again this is just not true.    The feminists twist things around here again and say they are the victims of male oppression and still claim it is true.   Even though statistics and studies show it isn’t.   Absolutely insanity.

Then the whole right to the body thing.  Now while I am understanding that view to a point.  I do believe men have rights here too.    A man should have a say in wether or not he can become a father and if the woman doesn’t want the child he should have a say on keeping that baby if he wants it.

Feminists don’t want men to have the choice   To them, the choice was made when they had sex with the woman.   Once you have sex with a feminist, that’s it, your fucked dude.    They will choose to have that child and can force you in law to pay for it.  And don’t think you get off of paying for the child if your not the father, because she can drag you into court and make you pay for it as well.  She usually does this by tricking you into marrying her before the baby is born.   If that baby is black and your both white.  That baby wasn’t yours but she will make you pay for it for the next 21 years.

If you challenge any of their ideas or notions in any organized fashion, they form protests and become violent and then cry they are the victims of oppression.

The following  woman features in many copies of the same video, who in one breath says she is for equal rights and then screams at the men who are trying to speak with her calmly, but she herself in a rage “SHUT THE FUCK UP” or belittles the men when they answer her question about the men’s issues.

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I admit, this woman in particular really made me angry, and I admit I wanted to slap her.  Do a search on the Men’s Right Movement and you will run across the video that many people have posted.   She comes off as a rabid bitch, who should be drugged and put into a padded cell for insane people.    I know what I just said will piss off feminists, but I don’t care.  So far the majority I’ve seen of them, have these insane ideas and will berate men for speaking up.  Those women don’t deserve any respect or me being polite to them.

Now I know I seem harsh but after watching these videos non stop for weeks and comparing the two groups, I can only say that the Men’s Right Movement has my vote.   They do criticize the feminists and their agenda but only because it claims to be for equality then slaps men down when they speak about the issues facing men and boys.    For this reason alone, the MRA will never find any common ground with feminism, because their agenda won’t allow them to admit they have done any harm to men, or are oppressing men.   To them, if you disagree with their agenda then your a misogynist, patriarcal bastard, who oppresses and rapes women.

The new thing the feminists seem to be doing lately as well is attack the gay men.  According to them, they claim we are not supporting them in their agenda.   I have to say as a gay man myself..  NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

So to all the bitchy feminists like the one above and that includes the one in the photo.   The following paragraph is just for you.

I’m a gay man. I supported women’s rights from the very beginning.  I was there in the 90s when lesbians wanted special places to meet and agreed with that.  I had many feminist lesbian friends when I was young.  I supported you, even the women who hated men and were open about it.   I am for and always have been for equality.   But you bitches have subverted the movement and made it toxic.  So much, men are killing themselves from sheer depression, desperation and financial stress so you can be pampered and not have any responsibility for your actions.  Your theories are insane and garbage and any idiot with half a brain can see through them.  You prey on the stupid and have insinuated yourself into our school systems, governments and have subverted things enough that you achieved your goals but are oppressing men and little boys.  You are the evil of the world and you need therapy.    If some of us gay men have not supported you, then BOO FUCKING WHO.  You don’t deserve any man’s support.  I hope all your husband’s and boyfriends smarten up and leave you and leave you with nothing so your forced to fend for yourself.  Your children should be taken away from you, so they don’t learn the hate you spew in the guise of equality.  Until you learn that this planet has two genders and one of them is not your fucking doormat then there cannot be equality.

(This rant was not for those feminists who are the ones who are sane.  That rant was for the delusional ones who spew hate at men).

Call me what you will but at this point I’ve seen the evidence, from the illegal behavior from feminists at protests to stop men’s rights groups to form, gamer-gate propaganda, to the ad campaigns “don’t be that guy”.   It’s all garbage nonsense attacking men and not acknowledging or admitting any responsibility in being part of a gender that consist of half the population that raised those so called rapists.

And now this one is to the men.   Word of advice.   When meeting a woman at a bar or anywhere really, find out right out the bat if they are a feminist if you can.  Ask them questions about what they think about some of the topics above.  If any of them think the men’s rights movement is garbage or agree with the feminists ideas, then run away fast.  Those women are toxic.

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